Raw to cats

[BettinaT]

Hi

I need help with what to give my cats. They are 10 and 11 years old.
For some years now (maybe 3 ), i have give them barf. ( raw meat)
I was giving only chicken meat or turkey or duck. With and without bones. And then i added a vitamin powder from here : https://knowwhatyoufeed.com/ ( i think it was Jeff there recommended me to add that )

Now i have found a blend of food ( still barf/raw) where there are, (all chicken) meat, neck, liver, heart and gizzard in.
Should i still continue with add the vitamin powder to that?

As i have challenges with my health, i dont have so much energy to made foods to my cats. So i have buy from Orginal Barf (im located in Denmark), its a 1 kilo bag with ( see added pictures of exampel)

So i really need help on this now, to make sure i give my cats the right they need. If someone can explain it slow and easy for me thanks. I have difficult to read books and so because of my challenges . I will made the foods myself, if i exactly know what to do.

It means a lot for me, because i live alone with my cats, so i hope some of you are able to help me, thanks from my heart ?

 

[Dr. Jeff]

You've got 2 lucky kitties Bettina!

I'm sorry to hear about your chronic illness.?

I think continuing to add the Alnutrin supplement is fine but may not be necessary depending on te ingredients (I'll see if I can find them).

I bet tho that @Dr. Jean Hofve can help with further feeding advice.

 

[Dr. Jean Hofve]

Hi Bettina! I think I would continue with the Alnutrin powder. There are a few things not provided by meat/organs alone or are less in chicken, like iron and choline. If additional calcium is not included in the food (the neck bones in the mix would not be a sufficient source), then the one with calcium would be best.

 

[BettinaT]

Hi Bettina! I think I would continue with the Alnutrin powder. There are a few things not provided by meat/organs alone or are less in chicken, like iron and choline. If additional calcium is not included in the food (the neck bones in the mix would not be a sufficient source), then the one with calcium would be best.

Hi Jean. Thanks for your answer.
So you could give the alnutrin with Calcium when I also have add little chicken neck in the foods?







@Dr. Jeff here is a picture of what inside alnutrin.

@Dr. Jean Hofve What do you think about the foods I give? ☺

 

[Dr. Jean Hofve]

Yes, that's the supplement I was looking at. Chickens raised for meat are really "top-heavy," they just don't have enough bone to balance, and at least some calcium needs to be added even if the whole chicken is used, and certainly if necks are the only source of bone.

Without knowing everything that's in the food, I can't really assess it, and I am not a nutritionist anyway. I don't have the $5000 program the companies use to analyze diets (and it's a nightmare to use, I've seen what it does and yikes!). Does the company say it's a complete diet, does it have any supplements included, or is it just meat/neck/organs? I am a bit of a stickler about balancing a diet; or "paranoid" might be a better word. Alnutrin is designed for that purpose. I bet if you called them and asked, they'd tell you which product to use (maybe even a combo of both). Inquiring minds want to know!

 

[Dr. Jean Hofve]

Yes.

 

[BettinaT]

Yes, that's the supplement I was looking at. Chickens raised for meat are really "top-heavy," they just don't have enough bone to balance, and at least some calcium needs to be added even if the whole chicken is used, and certainly if necks are the only source of bone.

Without knowing everything that's in the food, I can't really assess it, and I am not a nutritionist anyway. I don't have the $5000 program the companies use to analyze diets (and it's a nightmare to use, I've seen what it does and yikes!). Does the company say it's a complete diet, does it have any supplements included, or is it just meat/neck/organs? I am a bit of a stickler about balancing a diet; or "paranoid" might be a better word. Alnutrin is designed for that purpose. I bet if you called them and asked, they'd tell you which product to use (maybe even a combo of both). Inquiring minds want to know!

@Dr. Jean Hofve
I give a little different. The one day it's only pure meat chicken or turkey.

And then I also give a blend where it's after 80% meat (pure meat and meat from gizzard, heart) (chicken or turkey) 10% chicken neck, 10% liver.

There are not added something else to it. No supplements are added to it.

 

[BettinaT]

@Dr. Jeff I see the one vitamin powder from www.knowwhatyoufeed.com have butternut squash powder in , will that be helpful for cats to have, or better with that variant with egg yolk in ?

 

[BettinaT]

Here you can see what the different things are : A Guide To A Balanced, Homemade Cat Food - Alnutrin Supplements


Alnutrin Supplements Ingredient Facts
Selected Certificates of Origin are available upon your request.





Calcium

Of all the minerals, calcium is required in the greatest amount. It is supplemented in the form of calcium carbonate from food grade fine ground limestone (Alnutrin with Calcium) or in the form of calcium carbonate from egg shells (Alnutrin with EggShell Calcium). The country of origin for both products is USA. You can find out more about the difference between limestone and egg shell calcium at this location.



Copper

Is added in the form of tasteless copper citrate or copper gluconate. The country of origin for both products is USA.



Iron and Manganese

These micro-minerals are added in the form of tasteless amino acid chelates. The country of origin is USA. You can find out more about the advantages of chelated minerals at this location.



Sodium, Potassium and Chloride

Are added as food grade sodium chloride and potassium chloride (table salt). The country of origin for both is USA.



Zinc

Added as zinc oxide. The country of origin is USA.



Vitamin E

Is added in a natural form of mixed tocopherols. The country of origin is USA. Mixed tocopherols are manufactured from vegetable oils. They include alpha, beta, gamma and delta tocopherols. Recent studies have suggested that alpha-tocopherol (the most common form of tocopherol added to food products and supplements) may not yield the much purported health benefits unless it’s combined with the gamma-tocopherol form. Though gamma-tocopherol may be less potent as an antioxidant than alpha-tocopherol, research suggests its configuration enables it to better trap and quench reactive nitrogen oxide species. These dangerous free radical compounds are formed in excess during an inflammatory episode. Gamma-tocopherols unique ability to provide protection against these damaging reactive nitrogen oxide species makes it an extremely important weapon in the battle against heart disease, brain disease and cancer. You can find more info about the benefits of mixed tocopherols in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 74, No. 6, 714-722, December 2001.



Vitamin D

Is supplemented in the form of cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) with vitamin E added as an antioxidant. The country of origin is Israel. This product does not contain the synthetic antioxidants butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT) or butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA). While some studies indicate BHT and BHA are safe, other studies demonstrate that they cause cancer in rats, mice, and hamsters. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services considers BHA to be “reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen.” Nevertheless, the Food and Drug Administration still permits BHA to be used in pet foods.



Vitamin B1 and B12

The country of origin for both products is USA.



Taurine

Most mammals manufacture taurine from other amino acids. However, cats are not able to do that in a sufficient amount and, therefore, must acquire enough additional taurine through their diet.
The country of origin is Japan.



Iodine

Is added as potassium iodide. The country of origin is USA.



Egg Yolk Powder

The country of origin is USA. We use a pure dry egg yolk free of “flow agents” and other additives. It is an excellent natural source of choline, biotin and other vitamins and minerals

@Dr. Jeff I see the one vitamin powder from www.knowwhatyoufeed.com have butternut squash powder in , will that be helpful for cats to have, or better with that variant with egg yolk in ?

 

[Dr. Jeff]

For my kitties, I'd use the one with egg yolk.