My 12-year dog had a cancerous growth removed from her mouth a few weeks ago. The local vet recommends an oncologist visit and HIGHLY recommends the Melanoma 'Vaccine' if the cancer has spread. Well, I, like most or all of you, do not believe in vaccines (well, other than rabies because in the state where I live in, it is dangerous to have dogs 'unlawful'). With that said, I do believe that there are times when homeopathic options AND conventional procedures are the course to follow. I have read a number of articles about this Melanoma 'Vaccine' (although not really a vaccine but labeled one because it causes an immune response) which contains DNA codes for human tyrosinase. After multiple injections, the dog's body supposedly starts to produce this human protein and then his/her body stimulates an immune response. On top of all this, it suggests that this transdermal procedure only be started AFTER local disease has been dealt with ie. through surgery &/or radiation etc. My dog's BEAM is 10/10 but it also was a 10/10 when this rapid cancerous growth was growing in her mouth. She does have an appointment with an oncologist next week and I want to be prepared to make an informed decision by hearing all of your wisdom and thoughts. Please advise! THANK YOU.
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Melanoma 'Vaccine'
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Hi Louise, well (of course) it depends. Here's what I can find in my research:
You're right, it's not really a vaccine, and wouldn't carry the side effects of traditional vaccines, especially the adjuvanted ones. Adverse effects tend to be local and mild (injection site pain, redness, swelling), plus occasionally GI upset.
What was the stage of the melanoma? Was it considered benign (as most oral ones are)? The vaccine is only licensed for distal tumors (legs, toes).
The vaccine is intended to prevent metastases. If the excision was complete with good margins, then it could be useful. It does not prevent recurrence of local disease. (The main concern in that location.) Radiation and chemo aren't very good either.
When you talk to the oncologist, don't let them bully you. Make them justify the vaccine (and its cost) with every bit of data they can muster, especially regarding oral tumors (which it's not designed for).
Recent data is lacking, which makes me think it's not being used much. Part of that is it's hard to get, it's been on backorder forever. If your oncologist has it, there may be a financial incentive to use it when a somewhat suitable case comes along. Not wanting to impugn motives here, but its high cost and access issues are facts.
My personal bias would lie instead in supporting your dog's immune system with an extremely clean, extremely low-carb diet (most cancers LOVE carbs and sugar), the Happiness Protocol, energy work, and homeopathy.
Let us know how your appointment goes! We are with you in spirit!
You're right, it's not really a vaccine, and wouldn't carry the side effects of traditional vaccines, especially the adjuvanted ones. Adverse effects tend to be local and mild (injection site pain, redness, swelling), plus occasionally GI upset.
What was the stage of the melanoma? Was it considered benign (as most oral ones are)? The vaccine is only licensed for distal tumors (legs, toes).
The vaccine is intended to prevent metastases. If the excision was complete with good margins, then it could be useful. It does not prevent recurrence of local disease. (The main concern in that location.) Radiation and chemo aren't very good either.
When you talk to the oncologist, don't let them bully you. Make them justify the vaccine (and its cost) with every bit of data they can muster, especially regarding oral tumors (which it's not designed for).
Recent data is lacking, which makes me think it's not being used much. Part of that is it's hard to get, it's been on backorder forever. If your oncologist has it, there may be a financial incentive to use it when a somewhat suitable case comes along. Not wanting to impugn motives here, but its high cost and access issues are facts.
My personal bias would lie instead in supporting your dog's immune system with an extremely clean, extremely low-carb diet (most cancers LOVE carbs and sugar), the Happiness Protocol, energy work, and homeopathy.
Let us know how your appointment goes! We are with you in spirit!
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I think Oncept is OK for oral melanoma. Tho as we discussed today Louise, it is super pricey (I saw one quote of $600/shot and at least 4 are required).
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...and Tincture of Love is quite inexpensive, no? I'd go with the Love angle, too: tons of attention, bedtime stories all day long, indulgent sniff walks, lovely fresh foods. ...and then there is homeopathy. Believe this all works - and it will, to the extent she can muster. It's all we can do - and it's the best we can do.
I know nothing about the vaccine, however my gut is saying no. I think a low or zero carb healthy fresh food diet along with lots of love will do more than the vaccine which could actually cause harm. However, I am a person who has personally seen vaccine damage in my dogs and myself so I could be bias.
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