Large cell lymphoma in my cat

[GinnyW]

Lisa, you did great by him, and learned a heap along the path. He will always be with you, and everything he taught will live on to help others. Thank you, and Punk thanks you, for alll you did and learned. All our love!

 

[LisaArk]

Glad Punk is feeling sparkier!

To answer your question though, fenbendazole has been able to kill some types of cancer cells in petri dishes, but that rarely translates to real life. There is no evidence that it is useful for cancer in pets.

The anti-parasitic dose (50-100 mg/kg) might kill a few surface cancer cells along the intestinal wall, if it could even penetrate the mucus barrier. Deworming formulations aren't supposed to be absorbed, they're supposed to stay in the GI tract and directly poison the parasites (worms and flukes) sitting there.

Because it is given by mouth, it would have to reach the cancer through the bloodstream, but it is poorly bioavailable. (It can have adverse effects if it *is* absorbed, but the deworming dose is quite safe.)

From what I can determine, the risk of toxicity is much greater than any possible benefit.

@Dr. Jean Hofve @Dr. Jeff @Dr. Christina
Hi everyone, I got this email 2 days after saying goodbye to Punk - an actual pet protocol with fendbendazole, but didn't have the heart to post about it yet. Wondered, after the fact, what your thoughts are. Here it is....this is from a Dr. Andrew - i'd started subscribing to his newsletters a couple of months ago...I also understand people are selling products...

What is the Joe Tippens Cancer Protocol?
Source: laurasmercantiles.com

If you have been diagnosed with cancer, or have a loved one that is suffering from cancer, chances are you have heard about the Joe Tippens Cancer Protocol.

Joe Tippens founded the protocol after he was told a story about a scientist at Merck Animal Health that had been performing cancer research on mice. The research included injecting different types of cancers into different mice body parts. The scientists discovered, through trial and error, a product in their canine product line, fenbendazole, that was batting 1.000 in killing these different cancers in the mice. The scientist was later diagnosed with stage 4 brain cancer and was given a grim prognosis of only three months to live. She decided to try the fenbendazole, and after six weeks, showed a clean scan.

Joe Tippens had been initially diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. The cancer later spread to his neck, right lung, stomach, liver, bladder, pancreas and tail bone. Like the scientist from Merk Animal Hospital, Joe was told he only had three months to live. In 2017, after hearing the story of the scientist who treated her cancer with a canine drug, Joe decided he was going to do the same. However, in addition to taking the fenbendazole, Joe added his own ingredients to the regimen (curcumin, CBD oil), thus creating the Joe Tippens Cancer Protocol.

In this article, we will provide information about each ingredient included in the protocol.

**We in no way endorse the Joe Tippens Cancer Protocol as a cure for cancer, and as always, you should consult your physician before starting any new medications or treatment plans.

Fenbendazole (Panacur)

If you have animals, you have probably heard of fenbendazole, as it is a drug used to treat parasites and worms (roundworms, hookworms, whipworms, and some tapeworms) in animals. However, Joe uses it as a cancer treatment method.

Fenbendazole is a benzimidazole, a class of microtubule-destabilizing agents. Other benzimidazoles, including albendazole, parbendazole, mebendazole and flubendazole have already been shown to have promising results in humans. While there have been very few scientific studies done on the possible cancer fighting benefits of fenbendazole, one such study suggests that fenbendazole has “been safely utilized as an anti-parasitic for various different animal species and could be repurposed for treating human malignancies.”

Another study states that the “repurposing of veterinary drugs showing promising results for human use can result in considerable time and cost reduction required to develop new drugs.”

Altogether, our findings show microtubule disruption, p53 stabilization and interference with glucose metabolism as collective underlying mechanisms of FZ induced preferential elimination of cancer cells both in vitro and in vivo.

The Joe Tippens Cancer Protocol suggests a dose of 222 mg per day (1 gram of Panacur C), seven days a week. It is also recommended that the fenbendazole be taken with food.

Panacur for Pets

There are no clear established low dose regimens for pets. Dr Jones is suggesting 10mg/kg daily (50mg/10lbs) meaning a 50lb dog would get 250mg/day or 2.5ml of the liquid panacur.

Full Spectrum CBD Oil

The most abundant compound in hemp plants found in the flower and leaves is Cannabidiol, or CBD. CBD is one of more than 100 different cannabinoids that can be extracted from the hemp plant. CBD is a cannabinoid, meaning it acts on the endocannabinoid system of the body. CBD is more specifically referred to as a phytocannabinoid, meaning that it is a cannabinoid originating from a plant. Cannabinoids do not have to come from within us to affect our endocannabinoid system, which is why CBD is able to impact us. Because their molecular makeup is similar to that of endocannabinoids, cannabinoids originating outside our bodies can interact with our endocannabinoid systems, altering activity and delivering therapeutic benefits.

According to a recent report, “several studies have now shown that CB1 and CB2 receptor agonists can act as direct antitumor agents in a variety of aggressive cancers.”

Full Spectrum CBD oil is an important part of the Joe Tippens Cancer Protocol. However, it is important not to choose just any CBD brand. Make sure the CBD oil you choose is made from USDA-certified organic hemp, it has no pesticides included, and that the company you purchase from can provide current certificates of authentication (COAs) for their products.

The Joe Tippen’s Cancer Protocol recommends taking 25 mg of CBD oil sublingually (under the tongue) seven days a week.

CBD for Pets

Dr Jones suggests a pet dose of 3m/10lbs twice daily. This equates to 1 drop twice daily of Dr Jones' ULTIMATE CBD for Dogs and Cats.

Curcumin

Curcumin is the main active ingredient in turmeric, a spice native to Southeast Asia. People have been using turmeric for its medicinal properties for over 4,000 years, and curcumin is reported to be the source of turmeric’s healing abilities. Curcumin is believed to have antioxidant properties, which means it can help decrease swelling and inflammation. It is also said to help with arthritis, eye health, kidney health and is a potential cancer treatment option.

According to a 2019 study, “the anticarcinogenic activity of curcumin has been documented in the GI tract because this compound has proven to exert a therapeutic effect on different human GI cancers such as esophageal, gastric, and small and large intestinal cancer.”

Because curcumin is absorbed poorly during digestion, it is important to find a bio-available form to achieve the desired results. The Joe Tippens Cancer Protocol recommends taking 600 mg (2 pills per day) of bio-available curcumin 7 days a week.

95% Curcumin for Pets

Dr Jones suggests an animal dose of 50-100mg/10lbs daily. A great bioavailable option is Dr Jones' High Absorption 95% Curcumin for Dogs and Cats. Standard dog dose of one 250mg capsule/50lbs twice daily.

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Heal Your Pet At Home! Best Wishes, Dr Andrew​

P.S. If one of my dogs or cats is to get cancer again, I will be using this protocol ( and likely a few other ingredients based on the type of cancer) P.P.S. I am very proud of our NEW 95% Curcumin Supplement! It is the most studied curcumin supplement on the market with over 85 Clinical studies. Dr Jones' 95% Curcumin BCM-95® (CURCUGREEN®) is our 100% pure turmeric extract that boasts enhanced bio-efficacy. It is manufactured by combining curcumin with turmeric essential oil specially enriched to 45% Ar-turmerone (another active turmeric extract). It has been researched in many human clinical studies and other models for its powerful inflammatory response, anti-oxidant properties, mood and cognitive support abilities among many other health benefits Absorption is INCREASED as we have added in BioPerine. Dr Jones' ULTIMATE High Absorption 95% Curcumin for Dogs and Cats​

 

[Dr. Jean Hofve]

You're so right about the selling aspect. This is a great example.

Dr. Andrew Jones is very well known. He was a practicing veterinarian in Canada. He was repeatedly warned and fined by the Veterinary Board for making claims prohibited by professional ethics, and other violations. He ultimately surrendered his veterinary license so he could continue selling his books and products without accountability.

Tippens used many products over time, not just fenbendazole. The ones described may only be the last few in a long series, we don't really know.

When I work with clients, I encourage them to do one thing at a time--so that we know what's working. True, we don't always have time for that, so a shotgun approach may be warranted. But we don't know what was really going on in a case like that.

At the risk of belaboring this post, let me tell you a little story. As a feline vet I dealt with innumerable cases of bladder inflammation (FLUTD by any other name). I tried so many things! Every time I found *the* combination that worked perfectly on one cat, it didn't work at all on the next cat. It was so frustrating, but completely understandable.

Every cat, every dis-ease, every condition, is individual. Genetics, epigenetics, history, diet, social factors, environment, personality--everything we consider when taking a homeopathic case--influences the symptom picture we see at any moment. That's why homeopathy is so individualized. And why one protocol is unlikely to work across the board.

Hope is a wonderful and a dangerous thing. Unfortunately, Punk's disease was very advanced and there wasn't time to reverse it, if indeed it was possible. He was on his own life path, and sometimes we don't have as much input on that as we like to think.

Second-guessing yourself can't do anything but create doubt and regret, which have no value for anyone.

You gave Punk a wonderful life full of love, and a peaceful release. Be gentle with yourself. Enjoy your memories of a kitty life well lived. Ya done good, dear Lisa.

 

[ElissaB]

How are you doing, @LisaArk ? Holidays are especially tough while grieving.

 

[LisaArk]

You're so right about the selling aspect. This is a great example.

Dr. Andrew Jones is very well known. He was a practicing veterinarian in Canada. He was repeatedly warned and fined by the Veterinary Board for making claims prohibited by professional ethics, and other violations. He ultimately surrendered his veterinary license so he could continue selling his books and products without accountability.

Tippens used many products over time, not just fenbendazole. The ones described may only be the last few in a long series, we don't really know.

When I work with clients, I encourage them to do one thing at a time--so that we know what's working. True, we don't always have time for that, so a shotgun approach may be warranted. But we don't know what was really going on in a case like that.

At the risk of belaboring this post, let me tell you a little story. As a feline vet I dealt with innumerable cases of bladder inflammation (FLUTD by any other name). I tried so many things! Every time I found *the* combination that worked perfectly on one cat, it didn't work at all on the next cat. It was so frustrating, but completely understandable.

Every cat, every dis-ease, every condition, is individual. Genetics, epigenetics, history, diet, social factors, environment, personality--everything we consider when taking a homeopathic case--influences the symptom picture we see at any moment. That's why homeopathy is so individualized. And why one protocol is unlikely to work across the board.

Hope is a wonderful and a dangerous thing. Unfortunately, Punk's disease was very advanced and there wasn't time to reverse it, if indeed it was possible. He was on his own life path, and sometimes we don't have as much input on that as we like to think.

Second-guessing yourself can't do anything but create doubt and regret, which have no value for anyone.

You gave Punk a wonderful life full of love, and a peaceful release. Be gentle with yourself. Enjoy your memories of a kitty life well lived. Ya done good, dear Lisa.

@Dr. Jean Hofve I never had the time to research this guy, but I'm always somewhat skeptical...Also, thanks for your kind words.

 

[LisaArk]

How are you doing, @LisaArk ? Holidays are especially tough while grieving.

@ElissaB, Doing OK, thanks. We are away now, and the only reason we are, is because we don't have to take care of Punk, so it's just sad, but been down this road before. I'll give myself some time and then probably just rescue another one...How is Bach doing?

Lisa, you did great by him, and learned a heap along the path. He will always be with you, and everything he taught will live on to help others. Thank you, and Punk thanks you, for alll you did and learned. All our love!

 

[LisaArk]

Lisa, you did great by him, and learned a heap along the path. He will always be with you, and everything he taught will live on to help others. Thank you, and Punk thanks you, for alll you did and learned. All our love!

@GinnyW Thanks for your lovely, supportive words, very appreciated.

 

[LisaArk]

"What a balancing act", you said. And this is so true. Heart and mind are part of the balancing act. There are no right answers, no miracle cures, though miracles happen all the time with almost every approach. Great to collect information, then step back and really trust your heart and intuition. Is the fenbendazole treatment coming from your mind and "I want to try everything" or does it "feel" right in your heart and intuition?

Quality of life is our key at any point, even if the good times are short each day. You may want to schedule a call with Gail Pope and read her thoughts on the page, too, as she had hundreds of cats in just the place you are at.

Usually energetic treatments help maintain quality of life the longest, even if the tissue damage is not repaired, and sometimes even repairs the damage.

Dr. Christina

 

[LisaArk]

@Dr. Jeff @Dr. Christina @Dr. Jean Hofve @GinnyW @ElissaB It doesn't sound like these things would be up anyone's alley here, but if anyone would like them, let me know. I wish I had had time to research someone that did energetic treatments, but I was so overwhelmed at the time with trying to balance Punk and an extraordinary amount of work...I tried doing some myself - I've had a small amount of experience with Reiki..
Michael Dym, a homeopath who I'd consulted with twice recommended these things along with others, but they involved a dropper, so probably not a good idea to give away. Dr. Seo had Punkin on these:

Sorry for the humongous photos, not sure how to make them smaller.
Thanks again, everyone here for your time, energy and caring, and devotion.
L