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Homeopathy Consult for GSD with Appetite and Itching Problems?

LeslieS

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Five months ago, I adopted a GSD from an owner who had had her since she was a puppy. She’s having two challenges that suggest that she’s probably been out of balance most of her life. I believe she may need classical homeopathic treatment. I don’t know about a conventional vet visit. I’m hoping I can avoid that if possible. I’m posting here for feedback and if warranted, homeopathy advice and/or referrals.

1. Maya, 6 years old, female.
2. Neutered.
3. GSD.
4. 60 lbs.
5. BEAM: She is very fearful of thunder and lightening. We also get buzzed occasionally by military planes flying very low over our mountains, and that stresses her a lot, too. She is aggressive with other dogs, and was re-homed because she fought with the previous owner’s fiancé’s dog. This situation occurred for a number of months, so those behaviors got practiced. She reacts strongly to seeing dogs and other animals on TV, jumping up and barking. Her barking tone is deep, but often her tail wags just a little (not raised high). Three times she has charged at neighbors with their dogs when they walk by while barking aggressively and getting right up to intimidate them, so I have to manage her closely when we are outside as I have no fence. She is affectionate with me and bonded closely as GSD’s do, and quickly. Her mood is good. She continues to get more affectionate. She’s a good communicator and lets me know when she wants something by nudging me, then leading me to where she wants something (food, potty, water, outside, etc). Her appetite and energy are suboptimal as of the past month or so (see below). She seems to be fatiguing faster when I throw balls for her. If I let her, she used to chase balls until her tongue was hanging on the ground, but lately she lies down for breaks. I am retired, so she is rarely alone, gets a lot of attention, love, play and exercise. She gets an average of 3 ball throwing sessions every day (her favorite activity). We sit outside and enjoy the mountain environment. I go for walks a few days a week with a neighbor who she adores. I almost always take her with me when I go out, which she loves. I’ve just finished making a snuffle mat for her. The last two months, she has started running exuberantly about the way a puppy does when it’s super happy and wanting to discharge some energy. It’s adorable and I play stalk her, which eggs her on. I do allow her to get on my bed, and she’s choosing to lie next to me on the bed more often.
6. 80% raw, 5-10% cooked meat or stews, 5% vegetable (ie, kale and blueberries, canned pumpkin, etc.), 10% commercial canned. Previously, she was fed kibble (Purina).
7. Vaccinated according to conventional recommendations, which means over-vaccinated right on schedule whenever a vaccine was due.
8. First problem:
Appetite. Previous owner tells me he “had trouble getting her to eat [since] she was a puppy,” but she would also go through periods of about 6 months where she would eat well. Vets could never find an explanation, so it was chalked it up to anxiety because he took her on the road with him for his job, which he felt destabilized her. Vet put her intermittently on fluoxetine and once on trazodone. I weaned her off of the fluoxetine she was on when I got her. She does have some separation anxiety on the very rare occasion she stays home alone, but I have seen absolutely no evidence of anxiety that would warrant anxiety medication. She has a stable routine with me. She was eating great the first few months she was here (at a time when you’d think her stress would be higher with a new owner), and she took readily to raw. However, in the last month, she has regressed again and been refusing her food more. There does seem to be some kind of cyclical thing going on that goes back to her being young. She’s more apt to reject raw right now, so sometimes I can entice her by cooking the meat or adding flavor enhancers (a slight dusting of Italian sheep cheese or a few drops of bacon fat). She’s more likely to reject the raw at her first morning meal. She will occasionally vomit yellow bile in the morning. This, too, is a lifelong pattern. If I feed her between 6-7 am, it usually keeps vomiting at bay, but not 100%. I try to give her a snack close to bedtime to help her get through the night. After a tiring ball chasing session, she will occasionally start eating grass or some greenery. It appears to be like she is self-medicating for an uncomfortable stomach. Lately she is also chewing on wood twigs, although she’s not swallowing them.

Second problem:
Itching. She was itching up a storm when I got her. She scratched all over, both with her paws and her mouth. She also licked her paws. Her previous owner thinks that she has allergies, but he also told me she seems to itch more in the Winter. We are humid here (and where she came from), so I don’t think it’s dry skin, and it hasn’t gotten cold yet either. When I got Maya, I took her to a nearby holistic vet. One of the vet’s specialties is flower essences, and she does a bit of non-classical homeopathy, too. We put her on a blend of flower essences and gave her two doses of thuja. I wanted to wait a few months and see how she did before deciding whether I needed to get her a classical homeopathic consult. Her itching was definitely getting better, her energy was good. Then, quite suddenly, the itching came back again two weeks ago with a vengeance. Same type of itching as before. For the first time since I got her, I pulled three ticks out of her that she picked up when we visited the flatlands (we live in the NC mountains). Since those bites occurred right before the itching came back, I’ve been wondering if tick bites could act as an immune trigger and reverse the progress she had made. I have not been able to identify specific food allergies. She gets a variety of proteins, including turkey, lamb, beef, chicken, salmon, white fish, sardines, tuna, eggs and pork. I’ve not seen a pattern to a particular protein intolerance. The only supplement I've been giving her is Moxxor. I think I should probably give her probiotics, but I don't know what brand or how much. I don’t have other ideas for what could account for her rather rapid reversal. Nothing changed with respect to our routine or socially. Although we did go through the hurricane (our power was out for almost 5 days and we couldn't go outside much, but otherwise, not too remarkable for us), her appetite had changed prior to that, and her itching didn’t start until a few weeks after the hurricane when we went to a lower elevation where she picked up the ticks.

I have one set of labs that were run in January of 2024. a few months before I got her.

I’d like to know if there’s something I should try or whether she should get a homeopathic consult given the longstanding nature of these challenges. We live in the North Carolina mountains if there’s someone to take her to in NC or eastern TN in person. I can also work with someone virtually, of course. Thank you!

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Have you considered eliminating the Moxxor? It looks like it contains grape seed oil which is highly processed and high in omega six. Some dogs are also sensitive to green lipped mussels and other shellfish which it also contains.

Nancy
 
Hey Leslie!

Welcome to HA! and thanks for making your first post.

I'm sorry to hear about Maya's health challenges (tho her blood test results look fine), and she is one lucky pup to have found you!😍:dog2:💚🦋
I think I should probably give her probiotics, but I don't know what brand
Yes, I agree. Maybe start with The Wolf fro Adored Beast, then rotate (when the Wolf runs out) to their Fido's Flora, then Visbiome, then Mitomax, etc.


whether she should get a homeopathic consult given the longstanding nature of these challenges
Yes, yes, and yes. Allergies and emotional issues stem from the energetic imbalance that homeopathy is great at unraveling.

A virtual homeopath like Drs. Judy Herman (one of the webinar presenters this month), Todd Cooney, Adriana Sagrera or myself might work well for you.

@Dr. Christina may also know of someone local that you can visit.

Although physiologically active supplements can't resolve the energetic entanglements, they can help take the edge off. PHNC has some lovely products:


You may also want to try their probiotic spray.


All this can work along with homeopathy.

And @Dr. Jean Hofve is a flower essence expert and may have other suggestions.
 
Thanks Kim!
 
Wow, that's an awesome article! I strongly second working with a great homeopath. I have seen some amazing resolutions in complicated cases like this, in my own dogs and others. She is strong and vital, and just needs a little "guidance" on the systemic level.

Blessings on you for helping her out; she's strong and vital, and will reward you with great results:)
 
welcome, Leslie.
Dr. Jeff gave you some great ideas and I especially agree with Dr. Jeff and Ginny for you to start as soon as possible working with a great veterinary homeopath for full return to health for Maya. In addition, as you will find in the article on finding a vet, you can begin to see who is in your local area.
Relatively close is Dr. James Schacht, a long-time homeopathic veterinarian in Charlotte SC. Charlotte Natural Animal Clinic » About

Because of the multiple issues, downloading the Healthy Dog Journal.
You have great recall of all the issues and this gives you an organized approach. Also, the text is a great review of responses to treatments (cure, palliation, suppression) and the Early Warning Signs.

Creating the timeline and the master symptom list will help your veterinary homeopathy collect the symptoms needed to find the constitutional remedy.

Since you seem familiar with homeopathy, you may want to take the intro and intermediate classes in homeopathy that are a member benefit.

you are doing so many wonderful things for her. No need to rush to these other suggestions yet.
She is very fearful of thunder and lightening. We also get buzzed occasionally by military planes flying very low over our mountains, and that stresses her a lot, too. She is aggressive with other dogs,
We have a number of behavior webinars, including ones by Bloom and Goalya, who each do remote consulting; Robyn on the Tellington Method; Ranquet on EFT and many more.

Patience and choice seem to be big keys. At Smart Pet Talk, Goalya just interviewed Paul Owens who added some more great tips for positive training.

Great that you are feeding fresh. Keep offering a wide variety of foods and note which items she loves or hates; cooked or raw; cold or hot; as that can help the homeopathic remedy selection. Cooked food is fine, maybe lightly cooked? At different times, as with people, we need different types of foods.

Remember that when the imbalanced vital force can keep the symptoms on the outside, that is a good thing, so be very patient with resolving the skin. The cause is the imbalance, not food allergies, tick bites, etc. They are merely triggers as you will come to learn in your years to come here at HA! with so much information we are really a university of pet health care!. The section on skin (go to resource - library - for all these) has many topical treatments for the skin. The reaction of response to the Thuja and the flower essences, could have been just moving towards a cure, or palliation. Your homeopathic veterinarian will help you decide.

Maya is super blessed to have you!
Dr. Christina
 
Thank you, everyone, for the feedback.

Nancy, your comments about Moxxor were helpful. I’m not sure how much it might have contributed to Maya’s issues since she wasn’t getting more than 1-2 pills a week and her symptoms are longstanding. But it’s good to know about the potential ingredients that dogs can react to, and I will monitor. I won't replace the bottle when it runs out soon.

Thank you for the probiotic suggestions, Dr. Jeff. I will get her started.

Regarding the homeopathic vet suggestions, James Schacht, recommended by Dr. Christina, is within driving distance and has great reviews online for his naturopathic clinic. None of the reviews are about homeopathy specifically, but their clients are happy overall. Does it offer much of an advantage to see the dog in person? I know homeopathy can be very successful virtually (have experienced it with previous dogs), so I was wondering if Maya would be better off going to someone local who could evaluate her in person or whether that doesn’t really make much of a difference.

Thank you for the article, Kim. Lots of helpful information there.
 
Does it offer much of an advantage to see the dog in person?
At some point in treatment, yes. Perhaps ask someone at Dr. Jim's clinic what he would prefer.
 
When a homeopath is that close - I would opt for him over a local conventional.
I am sure he can do many of the follow up appointments (be sure you have the next one booked each time) virtually.

However, if you were satisfied with the prior virtual homeopath, I would contact that person.
Dr. C
 
Dr. Schacht, the homeopath that lives in my region, had a 5 month waiting list, so we have a consult scheduled with Dr. Sagrera in early December. The probiotics that Dr. Jeff recommended should arrive any day.

Meanwhile, Maya’s itching just seems to get worse. It’s almost constant and she must be miserable. We still have several weeks to wait for her first appointment. Because classical homeopathy of a complex case won’t yield quick results anyway, is there anything I can do or give her that would give her some symptomatic relief until she starts responding to homeopathy?

Meanwhile, would it be worthwhile to allergy test proteins? Because she was doing better a few months ago when I was feeding a diet with a lot of variety, I’m not convinced that it’s a contributor, but on the other hand, I can’t be sure. I have tried a few commercially prepared treats in the last two months that seemed to have decent ingredients, but maybe I gave her something that caused or exacerbated this? In any case, I won’t be giving her those anymore. Treat-wise, she has done well with homemade liver treats (the recipe I used did have oats in it - is that acceptable?), dehydrated salmon, grass fed hot dogs from Whole Foods and string cheese. Do all of these seem OK? Should I go ahead and remove a protein from her diet, ie, starting with chicken?

If her exacerbation is not diet-related, I can’t fathom why she’s worse than when she first got here.

Finally, are there online sources for cost-effect raw mixes that have bone, organs and even tripe in them? I’m struggling financially to give her good quality meat that isn’t factory farmed meat from a grocery store. She does get her organs and bones, and a little muscle meat from local farmers, but their prices are too high for me to provide all of her muscle meat this way. Recommendations for online vendors with good quality product, and whether tripe is still considered advisable, would sure be appreciated!

Thank you.
 
I wonder if your dog may have a histamine intolerance. I believe one of mine has this. For example, if she eats a high histamine food like green tripe or fermented sauerkraut she will start itching. Unfortunately, many healthy foods are high in histamines. In your list, I see two of them, cheese and hot dogs. Cheese can also be inflammatory for other reasons. In addition, some probiotic strains are not good for histamines so it is good to keep that in mind when choosing a probiotic. The oatmeal is a possible trigger and very high pesticide if not organic.

As far as reasonably priced raw dog food, My Pet Carnivore is very good.

Here is an article about histamines. It lists many of the high histamine foods and probiotic strains to avoid.

Low Histamine | Fresh Food Feeding

Nancy
 
is there anything I can do or give her that would give her some symptomatic relief until she starts responding to homeopathy?
How about vit. C or PEA?

Meanwhile, would it be worthwhile to allergy test proteins?
You can try a Nutriscan but probably can do better by trying an elimination diet.

 
A couple of things come to mind: If you tweak her diet to achieve a result you will be masking a predilection valuable in prescribing an appropriate homeopathic remedy. She needs to present just as she is, under reasonably normal conditions.

And, along these lines, a well-chosen homeopathic remedy can produce a result very quickly, almost immediately in some instances. This also indicates that one should be working from a "normal" or usual status, so that the remedy is not chosen based on an artificially-sustained condition.

As an aside, I really like green tripe as a staple or base. Unless you have real evidence that it exacerbates her condition I would not avoid it, since it is a great source of nutrition in many ways.

Just remember that homeopathy, to be most effective, needs to start with a study of the subject as a whole, unmolested and unmedicated except in emergent states.
 
Be sure to read the skin section in the resource library. There are a lot of topical, soothing, treatments that can at least temporarily help.

Happiness - play, run, teach tricks...whatever can be distracting and improve vitality with breathing and endorphins from fun.

Maybe a session with an animal communicator to see if Maya knows what seems to help the most.

Any of the energy healing modalities, many of which we have had speakers on: Reiki, HTA (healing touch for animals), EFT (emotion freedom technique), Bengston Method, Eden energy medicine, Tellington TTouch, Acupressure, Chi Gong, Tui Na, Tong Ren, WEBB. Quantum Touch, Prayer; Hands on intention; Prayer; Theta healing, Scalar Wave; Angels; Emotion code.

Dr. Christina
 
Great suggestions, everyone.

As for histamine, I would think her reactions would be more immediate? I, myself, have histamine intolerance from gut issues, and response is hours to days. I was feeding those during the period when she was improving. I will keep it in mind, though, as I'm quite sure her microbiome isn't healthy.

Ginny's comment that tweaking things right now could further confuse the presentation is well taken. I will just have to manage my emotional impulses to lower her symptomatic burden. Our consult is not too far away, so I will wait and not make dietary changes until I get some advice. Would it be wise to refrain from changing anything else? I would think vitamin C shouldn't be a problem. I have never heard of PEA, so I don't know if that would muddy her presentation or not.

I ordered the first two probiotics that Dr. Jeff recommended and they just arrived. I was going to start her on the liquid Wolf one. Should I take that same approach and hold off until the consult or would it be fairly safe to start it? Is this a probiotic that will increase histamine?

I really like the idea of an animal communicator. I do remember seeing a few names mentioned before, and thinking I should do that. I just did a quick search for "animal communicator," and I see lots of suggestions to use one, but I'm not seeing any names so far. Any suggestions?

Ginny, any favorite sources for green tripe?

I'll look into energy healing. I'm quite familiar with many of these. I should probably mention that I have health issues, myself, plus I am advancing in years (all the more reason to consult with an animal communicator, eh?). My own energy is limited and has to be spent attending to the necessities, which includes exercising and playing with Maya, so I don't have as much resources to spend here doing research and self-education as I would wish. This is why she gets a small amount of commercially prepared foods. I have days where I can't manage more preparation than that. Yes, I understand my health challenges might be having some effect on Maya. Truthfully, I didn't get a dog for five years after I lost my last one because I was worried about not being able to offer the most optimal care. But then I finally decided that saving a dog from a shelter or bad situation was still better than allowing it to languish there or be put down. I have a lot of limitations, but I can still offer good food, a nice home in the mountains with nature, conscientiousness, and love. I say this because my asking for answers in my posts, answers that might already be found here with significant searching, it is not laziness on my part. Energy is a more limited commodity for me than it is for most people.

Thank you, everyone.
 
With regard to green tripe, it did seem related to itching in one of my dogs. However, I wonder if it could be caused by what was in the cow's stomach vs histamines. For example, if the cow was finished on grains, I assume there might be some grain remnants there vs grass. My dog is sensitive to grains so perhaps it was grains and not histamines, although she did react to other high histamine foods and her gut perhaps was not as healthy at the time. I would try to find tripe from cows finished on grass, although most cows are grain finished so that could be a challenge. Grass fed does not necessarily mean grass finished.

In my opinion, raw green tripe can be part of a healthy diet. However, I believe it is overrated as a super food and should be fed in moderation just like everything else. I also do not believe it is a requirement for a healthy gut since I cut it out over 10 years ago and both my dogs have healthy guts at 16 years old. The main reason I never tried it again is because I do not trust what might be in the cow's stomach at time of slaughter.

Nancy
 
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"I finally decided that saving a dog from a shelter or bad situation was still better than allowing it to languish there or be put down. I have a lot of limitations, but I can still offer good food, a nice home in the mountains with nature, conscientiousness, and love."

You are so right that Maya is super much better with you.

And there is no right approach, no right answer and love is really the key.
It is fine to feed different foods before your visit and do make a list of any people food Maya loves or hates as that may help with the remedy selection.

to make the appointment easier and more useful, do make a timeline ahead of time. Any thing in her life that has happened, what you have tried, etc.

Dr. Christina
 
I get my tripe products from greentripe.com. I have known these guys since day one of their business, almost literally, and have followed their evolution to the present dedicated facility which does, in fact, use only grassfed tripes straight from the butcher. The meat, by law, cannot be processed in the least in any facility handling products for human consumption. I cannot say about the feeding of the animals with certainty, but I know they have been extremely diligent in keeping to their standard through the years.
I've heard my share of miracles from feeding it - the one most responsible for this enterprise was Eva Pauptit, who wrote a small book ( a copy of which I have) about her time during WW II, when she kept her show-winning Afghans alive and healthy by collecting tripes from the local farmers. When everyone else was persecuted by the Nazi soldiers, and the women victimized, they left her alone because she wore rags and always stunk of tripe:) Mary Voss, the owner of greentripe.com, was also a breeder of Afghans and friend to Pauptit, and carried on the tradition of acquiring and feeding tripe. The present business is a far cry from when I first met her, when we used to meet a loaded semi-trailer (all the way from the east coast) at a pull-off from a secondary highway, and load the product into our cars and trucks to deliver to our co-ops.
So if there is such a thing as a "miracle food", tripe gets my vote: dogs universally love it, and it has inspired many to eat when nothing else worked - I know of one who had swallowed a sock and refused to eat until at death's door. He accepted the tripe, ate a bunch of it, and pooped out the offending sock!. Sick dogs, puppies, old dogs, fussy dogs - all seem to love it, and that alone is proof enough to me of its value. We use it mainly as a base, with other supplements and meats to garnish it. I also believe that variety is a critical component of raw diet - but far less important than the actual nutritive content.
 
Thanks for sharing this great historical info Ginny!
 
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