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Double checking the diet I’m giving my new dog

RenataV

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Hello! First time posting here.

I rescued a small 3-year-old female chiweenie, 13lb, about a month ago. Her name is Augustine. She was given the basic round of vaxxes early on this year, and is spayed (she was originally rescued from a city shelter with her puppies early on in the year by a foundation, spent the year living with fosters, and we adopted her a month ago. How she ended up at the city shelter isn’t known). She has a small lump on her back that our vet suspects may be a fatty growth, and red, itchy allergies in her paws (have improved since coming to live with us but still present). Her BEAM is great. She had bloodwork done early in the year and our current vet reviewed it and said it all looks good. She gets about 1h exercise total a day (light walks in the morning and evening and a longer walk on the weekend). She had one weird episode recently in the middle of the night where she woke up from her sleep seeming like she was struggling to breathe, but it resolved on its own and she was her usual self the following day. We contacted the emergency vet immediately and regular vet the next morning and they said they couldn’t do anything if it wasn’t happening in front of them, and that it could be nothing and just pass (which it did).

My main reason for posting is that I want to double check if the diet I’m feeding her is ok and what suggestions you would have for me. I want her on a Medical Medium-informed diet, and have been working on implementing the guidance he has to offer on that. Our vet okayed everything we’re doing but I want to double check here if it’s actually ok or if you have suggestions for any changes.

At the moment, we’re feeding her between 1-1/4cup total a day, half that amount being the Raw Vibrance brand veggie base mix, and the other half being sardines (basically 1-2 sardines a day, in just water, no oil or salt), plus a sprinkle of flaxseeds and ground turmeric once a day. She also gets cucumbers or carrots for snacks, and her treats (she gets about 4 a day) are a 100% grass-fed beef liver treat or a coconut + banana one (k9 Granola Factory brand). She absolutely loves all of the above. I plan to eventually bring in raw meat and raw marrow bones, but haven’t been able to yet. Soon I’ll be bringing in the Honest Kitchen meals and offer that instead of Raw Vibrance + sardines, and plan to take turns between those two brands (would it be better to rotate them weekly or is it ok to rotate them monthly?) I also plan to experiment with making homemade meals by steaming sweet potatoes, peas, russet and yellow potatoes, broccoli, adding in raw spinach, plus other MM recommendations and offer her a rotation of that plus what I described above, but haven’t started that yet (would sea salt or Himalayan salt or Atlantic dulse be needed for these meals?)

For her daily supplements, she gets 2-3 drops each of B12, zinc and olive leaf; a sprinkle of micro-c; 1-2oz of celery juice, and these are all mixed in with her meal, to which I add a bit of the sardine water too. I give her a splash of wild blueberry juice as well, separately. I’ll be adding a mushroom supplement for her paws, and spirulina and barley grass juice powder in the future.

Visually she looks leaner and stronger to me since coming home but she actually gained half a pound within the month. The vet said she’s at the right weight for her size but I’m concerned since I read online there’s a concern with pancreatitis when it comes to feeding dogs sardines daily (also, she’s been overweight before so I am concerned about that happening again). She doesn’t drink much water at all but the vet said she’s hydrated and well and that she’s getting enough from her diet alone.

If you have any insights about things that could be improved or if what I’m doing is already ok, please let me know. Also, if you have any insights on the breathing thing, I’d appreciate it (it was like she couldn’t catch her breath and kept using her stomach to try to inhale as she tried hard to bring air in through her nose. First it lasted for what felt like 1 minute, then 30s more, then 10s, and then it stopped).

Thank you in advance
 
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Welcome Renata. Others will add even more to answer your questions.

First, there is no one right answer for what to feed, or anything else for that matter. Each animal is unique, so your observations are critical to observe changes over time.

Please download the Healthy Dholisticactions.com/dog-journalog Journal, print and create the actual journal, create the timeline (and continue to up-date that), and the master symptom list (including the early warning signs), then enter anytime something (like the breathing episode) that happen along with anything that could have happened at that time.

Your regular veterinarian sounds like she is very open to holistic approaches. You also want to find a primary veterinarian to guide you with deep energy balancing treatments - great TCVM, Osteopath or homeopath (who can work virtually if no-one close to you). Read this article and dig in to find one. You can post in the forum where you live and who you are looking at using.

Food: yes, do not worry about the thirst as that is individual, just as some people are thirstier than others and a fresh food diet supplies a lot of water. Variety is the key. It is best not to feed one protein source for months and months on end. No need to worry about specific foods causing problems, that way. Dr. Jeff and Dr. Jean will chime in on what you are feeding. While I do not think it is critical, there are food analyzer programs where you can enter what you are feeding and it will guide you to specific supplements that maybe needed. Problem with these is that each field, state, country, and weather conditions may change the nutrient profile of the foods, which is why your observations are important. For weight, it is the same as with people - feed less and exercise more if you are concerned about weight gain.

The breathing episode could have been as simple as swallowing a bit of saliva wrong and trying to clear the trachea. No need to rush right to the vet for problems - read more in the 101 course and search the forum and library for HMDM (holistic medical decision making) to help you feel more comfortable judging need for immediate intervention, at home care, or just waiting.

Lots to learn, so be patient with yourself and Augustine. by next year you will have learned so much from here at HA! that you will be answering people's questions.

Dr. christina
 
Welcome Renata!
I rescued a small 3-year-old female chiweenie, 13lb, about a month ago. Her name is Augustine.

Thanks for rescuing your sweet pup Augustine. Great work with everything you're doing. 😍 :dog2: 🦋
light walks in the morning and evening and a longer walk on the weekend
Are these walks for exercise, or for sniffing? Therapeutic Sniff Walks can be quite slow going compared to walks for exercise.

double check if the diet I’m feeding her is ok
Yes, it is. You may want to continue with the sardines, other fresh meats, veggies and fruits that you are eating, etc.

As Dr. Christina said, variety (and freshness) is key.

Honest Kitchen is a good foods, but they are ultra-processed.

(would sea salt or Himalayan salt or Atlantic dulse be needed for these meals?)
Nope, not needed. However a inch now and again is a good way to add extra minerals.
 
I would try to rotate in some other proteins vs always feeding sardines. Grass finished beef would be an amazing addition. It is expensive but a small dog does not eat that much.

I am not a fan of Honest Kitchen. It is loaded with vegetables, some starchy, and lots of synthetic vitamins and minerals. Dr. Harvey’s Raw Vibrance is far superior. However, I understand wanting to rotate with some other base mix. I have heard the Hunde brand is good but have never tried it myself. Here is a link with some of the Hunde base mixes.

Raw Base Supplements

I am a huge fan of feeding raw meaty bones, either whole or ground. I think they contain so much nutrition and are superior to calcium substitutes because they not only contain calcium but all the minerals and cofacfors needed for calcium absorption. Chicken wings and necks are great for small dogs. They are easy to mince up with Joyce Chen poultry shears if you want to feed ground. Then you could add in some meat, organs and some vegetables to have a great homemade meal. You could rotate a homemade meal in with the other meals using the base mixes for lots of variety.

Good luck!

Nancy
 
I just wanted to add that including some heart meat is great. It is loaded with CoQ10 and taurine. Also, egg yolks are a great addition. I feed mine half egg yolk each day topped with eggshell membrane that I peel off the shells and a sardine a few times per week. Eggshell membrane is great for joints and egg yolks are loaded with nutrients. My dogs are small and half yolk seems right for them. I am not sure if eggshell membrane should be fed from grocery store eggs because those eggs are sprayed with chemicals. Not sure if these chemicals permeate the shell at all. You can spread the yolk thinly on a large plate to lick off. Mine love that!

Nancy
 
Thank you all so much for your replies. I will be re-reading them and taking them in. Definitely a lot to learn.
Welcome Renata. Others will add even more to answer your questions.

First, there is no one right answer for what to feed, or anything else for that matter. Each animal is unique, so your observations are critical to observe changes over time.

Please download the Healthy Dholisticactions.com/dog-journalog Journal, print and create the actual journal, create the timeline (and continue to up-date that), and the master symptom list (including the early warning signs), then enter anytime something (like the breathing episode) that happen along with anything that could have happened at that time.

Your regular veterinarian sounds like she is very open to holistic approaches. You also want to find a primary veterinarian to guide you with deep energy balancing treatments - great TCVM, Osteopath or homeopath (who can work virtually if no-one close to you). Read this article and dig in to find one. You can post in the forum where you live and who you are looking at using.

Food: yes, do not worry about the thirst as that is individual, just as some people are thirstier than others and a fresh food diet supplies a lot of water. Variety is the key. It is best not to feed one protein source for months and months on end. No need to worry about specific foods causing problems, that way. Dr. Jeff and Dr. Jean will chime in on what you are feeding. While I do not think it is critical, there are food analyzer programs where you can enter what you are feeding and it will guide you to specific supplements that maybe needed. Problem with these is that each field, state, country, and weather conditions may change the nutrient profile of the foods, which is why your observations are important. For weight, it is the same as with people - feed less and exercise more if you are concerned about weight gain.

The breathing episode could have been as simple as swallowing a bit of saliva wrong and trying to clear the trachea. No need to rush right to the vet for problems - read more in the 101 course and search the forum and library for HMDM (holistic medical decision making) to help you feel more comfortable judging need for immediate intervention, at home care, or just waiting.

Lots to learn, so be patient with yourself and Augustine. by next year you will have learned so much from here at HA! that you will be answering people's questions.

Dr. christina
Thank you so much for your reply!
 
Welcome Renata!


Thanks for rescuing your sweet pup Augustine. Great work with everything you're doing. 😍 :dog2: 🦋

Are these walks for exercise, or for sniffing? Therapeutic Sniff Walks can be quite slow going compared to walks for exercise.


Yes, it is. You may want to continue with the sardines, other fresh meats, veggies and fruits that you are eating, etc.

As Dr. Christina said, variety (and freshness) is key.

Honest Kitchen is a good foods, but they are ultra-processed.


Nope, not needed. However an inch now and again is a good way to add extra minerals.
Thank you so much for your reply, Dr Jeff! Can I ask if you could share more thoughts on Honest Kitchen? I was under the impression there were a very good option, especially for times when making her food from scratch isn’t possible.

They are mostly sniff walks.

I have one more question, but about brushing her teeth: what products would you recommend for that? Our vet recommend CET toothpaste, Periosupport powder, Aquadent water supplement and to brush 3-4x a week. I’m not familiar with any of these products or know how clean they are.
 
I just wanted to add that including some heart meat is great. It is loaded with CoQ10 and taurine. Also, egg yolks are a great addition. I feed mine half egg yolk each day topped with eggshell membrane that I peel off the shells and a sardine a few times per week. Eggshell membrane is great for joints and egg yolks are loaded with nutrients. My dogs are small and half yolk seems right for them. I am not sure if eggshell membrane should be fed from grocery store eggs because those eggs are sprayed with chemicals. Not sure if these chemicals permeate the shell at all. You can spread the yolk thinly on a large plate to lick off. Mine love that!

Nancy
Thank you for your reply!
 
I would try to rotate in some other proteins vs always feeding sardines. Grass finished beef would be an amazing addition. It is expensive but a small dog does not eat that much.

I am not a fan of Honest Kitchen. It is loaded with vegetables, some starchy, and lots of synthetic vitamins and minerals. Dr. Harvey’s Raw Vibrance is far superior. However, I understand wanting to rotate with some other base mix. I have heard the Hunde brand is good but have never tried it myself. Here is a link with some of the Hunde base mixes.

Raw Base Supplements

I am a huge fan of feeding raw meaty bones, either whole or ground. I think they contain so much nutrition and are superior to calcium substitutes because they not only contain calcium but all the minerals and cofacfors needed for calcium absorption. Chicken wings and necks are great for small dogs. They are easy to mince up with Joyce Chen poultry shears if you want to feed ground. Then you could add in some meat, organs and some vegetables to have a great homemade meal. You could rotate a homemade meal in with the other meals using the base mixes for lots of variety.

Good luck!

Nancy
Thank you so much for your reply!
 
share more thoughts on Honest Kitchen? I was under the impression there were a very good option, especially for times when making her food from scratch isn’t possible.
Yes, it's a very good product. For an ultra-processed food. IMHO, the fresher (and more vitality) in the food the better.
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They are mostly sniff walks.
Fantastic! :snowman::dog2: 😍
I have one more question, but about brushing her teeth: what products would you recommend for that?
I'd start practicing proper oral care with just a good diet, feeding raw meaty bones and Teef:

 
For brushing teeth, I love this product. I would not use CET as it has some undesirable ingredients that could harm the oral microbiome. Some people also brush with Teef. However, the tooth powder will provide mild abrasive action and you can just use it with fingers. Mine have mouths too small for brushes.

Natural Tooth Paste for Dogs and Cats

Nancy
 
And here's a new toothpaste from a trusted brand:

 
And here's a new toothpaste from a trusted brand:


Thanks Dr. Jeff.

I checked out the full list of ingredients.

Water, Glycerin, Cocos Nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Kaolin, Lauryl Glucoside, Carrageenan, Guar Gum, Malic Acid, Populus Tremuloides Bark Extract, Mentha Piperita (Peppermint) Oil, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Zinc Citrate, Salvadora Persica (Miswak) Stem Extract, Nigella Sativa Seed Oil, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil Store at room temperature.

I am wondering if thr carrageenan or guar gum is cause for concern? One thing I thought too is that we should avoid antibacterials in the mouth and instead focus on supporting the good guys which is what Teef does. For example, coconut oil and Peppermint oil are both antibacterial. I wonder if these will undo what Teef does or reduce its effectiveness. That is why I like the tooth powder from Pet Health and Nutrition Center. It supposedly supports the good bacteria, raises ph and has probiotics but does not kill anything. Anyway, toothpastes are so confusing. Makes my head spin.

Nancy
 
No muss, no fuss here...we use Teef!, and also Probright tooth powder (from PetLab) in his meals. No brushing needed:) I have great faith in the science behind Teef! We also feed lots of bones...
 
I am wondering if thr carrageenan or guar gum is cause for concern?
I don't believe so.

I wonder if these will undo what Teef does or reduce its effectiveness.
Nope.

However, I also don't feel that brushing/toothpaste are usually necessary.
 
I don't believe so.


Nope.

However, I also don't feel that brushing/toothpaste are usually necessary.

Thanks. I just brush my own teeth with plain water and have great dental health. Toothpaste has definitely been unnecessary for me. I do try to remove food particles from my dog's teeth but typically just use my fingers vs a brush. They have tiny mouths and I think it helps.

Nancy
 
And here's a new toothpaste from a trusted brand:

Thank you so much, I was about to ask if you have any recommendations.

So when she came home about a month and a half ago, I didn’t notice any bad breath in her, and now it’s changed. Not horribly, but noticeable. Could it have to do with the change in diet?

I also noticed some buildup in her teeth and one particular tooth seems off, I was wondering if you have any thoughts on what it looks like, and if the products suggested would be able to remove the buildup: 408272A4-E1F2-43BC-9423-8D8C3B5A28EF.jpeg

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Yes!


Yes, they’d be great for this very mild amount of tartar.

This might even be enough:

What could it mean, that her breath changed with the new diet?

And thank you for the other recommendation! I noticed it says “natural bacon flavor”, am I correct in assuming this means added MSG, as Medical Medium shares about natural flavors?
 
You'd have to ask them re the MSG... I don't know if this could be pertinent, but my dog's breath goes off each time he eats his favorite probiotic wafers. Clears up in two days, doesn't affect his teeth - and other chews don't produce that particular odor.

I've mentioned this previously, but we like Teef! and PetLab's Probright. After a thorough cleaning, teeth are holding great six months out.
 
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