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Cat Vomiting & Not Eating

SantaraV

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1. Your pet's name: Tiger (picture attached from 10 July 21 and today 19 Dec 22)
2. Approximate age: 7yrs 9months
3. Sex: Male
4. Neutering status: Neutered
5. Breed: Domestic Long Hair
6. Approximate weight: around 4.5kg (has lost around a kg)

7. What's their BEAM (behavior, energy, appetite, mood): He usually sleeps a lot during the day, has more energy towards the afternoon and evening hours and also in the mornings, eats morning and night and sometimes snacks during the day and is very attention/affection seeking, loves pats and will hang around for attention, but since the primary problem of vomitting up food/not being able to keep food down began, he's been staying in a certain corner of a room in the house, only coming out to the litter box once a day to pee (haven't seen poop in a while). I've noticed his energy has dropped a little bit and he seems weaker. I noticed him walking away from the litter box today as if he was slightly off balance. He hasn't been able to stomach and eat anything properly for a little over a week now and so doesn't bother to eat. His mood seems neutral, he appreciates when I come up to him for pats and imagining healing energy transferring to him etc. He also still seems to get up in the afternoon/evenings with more energy, and tries to go outside

8. Diet: Raw grass fed beef & chicken mince with veges

9. Vaccination history / exposure to toxins, other medication: Since finding Medical Medium info and beginning my own healing journey, my family hasn't taken him in for anymore vaccines. Unfortunately he received quite a few, around 5 from the period of 2016-2018 without us having any knowledge about their dangers. He has also has anesthesia and other medications for past treatments. He was recently given Maxalon tablets to assist with the vomiting when I took him to the vet 2 days ago, but I stopped giving them to him after noticing they were not helping. Has been exposed to household chemicals in the air, perfumes, cologned prior to me finding Medical Medium info.

10. Primary problem, when it began and if there was anything else happening around that time: Over a week ago he began vomiting up his food, and it reached the point where he completely lost his appetite and hasn't eaten in over a week. Since giving the Maxalon tablet, I tried feeding him the smalled pinch of his raw beef mince mix, and he seems to have this problem with grinding his teeth as he's trying to chew or move the food around in his mouth. After swallowing he seemed like he was in pain - was very agitated, meowing/crying, pacing, tail wagging, and then 10mins later he vomited. His recent vomits have been a bile color (photo attached from recent). The second time I fed him a pinch, he didn't vomit and didn't have this exact reaction, however later in the day he went into a gagging spasm/fit with no vomit. There was some family stress occurring around the time this began, but that has subsided. I can't think of anything else out of the ordinary. He has had periods of time in the past where he's vomited on and off for a few weeks and then returned to normal, but he never stopped eating like this. My biggest concern is the weight loss, as I can start to feel his bones protruding as I pet him.

11. Is the condition better or worse from exercise, heat, cold, time of day, certain foods, emotional upset, being touched, excitement, etc? Sometimes he gets irritated when he's being pet/touched, other wise I'm not sure.

12. Has any diagnostic work been done? Diagnosis if available (you can attach your diagnostic tests to the post if you have them) Not yet. I am going to ring up the vet today to decide the next course of action. I was told blood testing would be next.

13. Current and previous treatment: Previous treatment have been for abscesses from cat fight/wounds. Currently working with conventional vet to possibly book in for blood work and still looking for a holistic vet for recommendations/advice.

14. Other health concerns: Bad breath, slight yellowing teeth, white coating on tongue, freckles around eyes, sometimes constipation, periodic cold sores

Really really concerned and at a loss of what to do moving forward. Would appreciate any advice or direction with this. @Dr. Jeff @Dr. Christina


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Thanks for making your first post Santara!

I'm sorry about the eating, vomiting and weight loss challenges you are having your super handsome Tiger. :(

Yes, the next step is diagnostics and some warmed subcutaneous fluids under his skin + a vit. B 12 injection (in addition to the Vimergy drops that you may already have).

The bloodwork (ideally this would be sent out to a reference lab and not run in house) will help us name the dis-ease process. But regardless of the results, similar actions can help.

All of these actions increase the energy his pancreas, liver, and every cell in his body needs to do its job.

Does he like going outside, or hanging out on a catio? If so, the more time in nature that he gets, the better.

In addition, you mention that he usually loves being petted, so perhaps start some Love Therapy. To do it, just sit close by, gaze at him, BEAM loving thoughts in his direction and tell him that you love him (over and over). If he'll let you pet him and maybe even start purring, that would be great (but not essential).

It would also be great to start some Happy Dance therapy with him at least 2-3x a day. It's fun and easy and just involves putting on some music that evokes happy times for you and then dancing around with him in your arms while the music plays.

Another great thing to try (all these things can help him eat and heal) would be the Happiness Protocol:



While you do all these things, visualize a BEAM of laser-like (and cohesive) light travelling from his head to his tail.

Cohesive flow of energy through the center of his body is the intention. "Flow" is the state of optimal performance of his body that we are trying to achieve.

This flower essence may also help:


Regarding specific enticing foods, consider trying things like Wysong Dream Treats, freeze-dried hearts, other freeze-dried "snacks", baby food, goat's milk, eggs, etc.

@Dr. Jean Hofve may have other ideas...

Please let us know what your vet says and what the lab work shows.
 
Thankyou so much for all of these incredible recommendations @Dr. Jeff

I will be implementing as many of these as I can!

The blood test results show liver disease, and they're suspecting liver cancer as a possibility next. They're recommending taking him in for an ultrasound.

Do you have any advice for next steps?

I'm not too sure on diet and supplements to help support this either. I have reached out to a holistic vet, but am waiting to hear back.

We are also considering the possibility of a liver abscess. Do you know the possibility of it being that, and the right way to go about figuring out whether it is a liver abscess at the root of this? Also next steps to support him food and supplement wise? I have majority of the Vimergy supplements to give to him depending on what he's needing, but am stuck on the food as he's not eating at all.

Would really appreciate any recommendations or advice, thankyou so much for your support through this!
 
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You're welcome!
Do you have any advice for next steps?

The ultrasound (done by an internist or other specialist) will be super helpful.

Food wise, currently focus on small amounts of the foods that Tiger loves best.

Using the Vimergy B12 would be awe-some to start. 10-20 drops/day.
 
You're welcome!


The ultrasound (done by an internist or other specialist) will be super helpful.

Food wise, currently focus on small amounts of the foods that Tiger loves best.

Using the Vimergy B12 would be awe-some to start. 10-20 drops/day.
Hi @Dr. Jeff, thankyou for your response.

Just some updates… we were planning to bring him in for an ultrasound this morning as per the vets rec, but unfortunately woke up to him having multiple seizures. rushed him to the vet and eventually got him stable on a drip with medications etc. Did an abdominal ultrasound and didn’t see an abscess or anything else extremely concerning, however they ran a few blood tests throughout the day - a few concerns with low WCC and the liver enzymes. Have a possible epilepsy diagnosis and fatty liver, potentially hepatic lipidosis. They’re not sure what caused the vomiting and not eating to begin with. Other than that, a great sign was he was eating again. No vomiting so far with the anti-nausea meds they gave him via IV too. Another concern however was that he took a very long time to wake up after light sedation for the ultrasound, and the drugs have taken a while to wear off - they said this could be a sign that the liver isn’t filtering properly.

Have since taken him to a 24hr vet (where he is now). He’s showing some really great improvements over the past 5-6hrs. He’s eating well and scoffing the food! Weighing at 4.99kg now and I can feel that he’s less bony already. He’s still a little hazy and not able to walk properly with the drugs, but it’s worn off a lot more. So far they’ve given him:
Lactulose
Vitamin B12 shot
thiamin
S-Adenosyl methionine

Wasn’t too happy about the B12 shot (because of my knowledge of MM info on this subject), and was able to bring in Vimergy B12 for them to give for his second dose in the morning. Another thing that concerns me is the amount of blood draws they administer. I shared my concerns on this according to MM knowledge. I told them I understand fully if it’s 100% needed as an emergency, or if they really need to see how he’s progressing, but that his health will decline if his WCC is continually drained each blood draw. If he’s doing well symptom wise, i’m hoping they can hold off on taking so much to give him the best chance to recover. The vet said that instead of 3 they will try to do 2, but even then i’m worried. They’re not familiar with this concept about WCC lowering with the blood draws, they think it’s only red blood cells being taken out each time. Jeff, were you familiar with MM info on this at all and have any tips on how best to approach this?

I’ve also left Vimergy Zinc and Micro C(Vitamin C) at the clinic for them to use if needed. Will be picking him up at 7:30am to take back to my local vet for round the clock care. Would love to hear your thoughts on this and any advice/recs you have to give. Also with the food, they give him canned conventional food. Any thoughts on this? Thankyou
 
woke up to him having multiple seizures.
I'm sorry to hear about his seizures. Has he ever seized before?
were you familiar with MM info on this at all and have any tips on how best to approach this?
Sort of (does WCC=WBC?). Regardless of the initials yes, I agree for various reasons that excess blood draws can be vitality-lowering and slow healing.

The 1/3 decrease in blood draws that you discussed with the vet are a great idea. How often are they drawing blood?

BEAM is a great semi-quantitative way to help monitor and decrease the blood draws.
Also with the food, they give him canned conventional food. Any thoughts on this?
Since Tiger is happy with it then I think it's fine. You can work on diet, supplements and building vitality when he gets home.

The hospital is great to help diagnose and "fix" some problems, but deep healing occurs best at home...
 
I’ve never seen him have a seizure, no, but they said that by this point he would have had quite a few that went unnoticed.

Yes WBC. That was my thoughts two. They ended up drawing 2 lots, one at 5pm and one at 12pm.

Could you remind me what this BEAM thing is? Sorry, is there a link I could view?

I am about to pick him up in an hour and a half and get the rundown for what to do next. I’m sure they’ll want me to take him to the local vet for the day to monitor him.

What are you thoughts on them taking any more blood? I’m very uneasy about it. and any advice/recs for what to do when bringing him home?
 
What are you thoughts on them taking any more blood?
Great question! Occasional bloodwork for monitoring is quite useful and not harmful.

In the US (and probably worldwide) we have found that the results will be more accurate and useful if the bloods are sent out to a reference lab and not run in house.

BEAM is a super useful tool for monitoring inner vitality and balance on a daily basis.

This quality of life paradigm of Behavior, Energy, Appetite and Mood is the basis of all holistic actions and is further described here:

 
Great question! Occasional bloodwork for monitoring is quite useful and not harmful.

In the US (and probably worldwide) we have found that the results will be more accurate and useful if the bloods are sent out to a reference lab and not run in house.

BEAM is a super useful tool for monitoring inner vitality and balance on a daily basis.

This quality of life paradigm of Behavior, Energy, Appetite and Mood is the basis of all holistic actions and is further described here:


Thankyou for this info! @Dr. Jeff !!

Just an update: have collected tiger from the 24hr emergency vet and he’s not at my local vet for the day to be monitored on IV. He’s still a little bit wobbly and spacey, we’re thinking both from the seizure activity (he was wobbly prior to bringing him in) and perhaps from all of the medications administered, indicating a liver processing issue. Good news is he’s looking a lot better, has gained a little bit of weight, no vomiting or seizure activity or any blood in stool to report. He seems to be showing improvements.

They’re wanting to give him 3x doses of lactulose a day, which is a medication to supposedly assist with detox, catching toxins floating to the brain and allowing them to exit via the digestive tract. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. They’re also still feeding him canned digestive food.

I’m feeling that more natural, holistic methods should be brought in at this point. I have all of the Vimergy supps at home too. I know Milk Thistle is a herb in particular that’s helpful for liver function. I also have vitamin C, zinc, Lysine, olive leaf and so on. Do you have any recommendations on herbal supplements to support his liver and brain moving forward?

And any thoughts on the food they’re feeding him and what I should bring in moving forward? Also the medication they have him on?

Thankyou
 
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give him 3x doses of lactulose a day,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this
It's fine to use for now.

I’m feeling that more natural, holistic methods should be brought in at this point. I have all of the Vimergy supps at home too. I know Milk Thistle is a herb in particular that’s helpful for liver function. I also have vitamin C, zinc, Lysine, olive leaf and so on. Do you have any recommendations on herbal supplements to support his liver and brain moving forward?
Yes, yes and yes! All of the detox and liver support supplements that AW recommends for people (and the detox smoothie) are great to use. However...

And any thoughts on the food they’re feeding him and what I should bring in moving forward? Also the medication they have him on?
Yes! Keeping him happy with his food is going to be key. You may want to focus on finding fresh (and vital) foods he loves + Vimergy B12 (which activates many enzyme systems and can stimulate appetite).

When you get him home, perhaps feed the food that he's eating at the vet (even tho it's ultra-processed) then focus on finding fresh meats and organs (especially heart and pancreas) that he'll eat and enjoy.
 
thankyou so much again. would you recommend giving the heavy metal detox smoothie with a syringe? he doesn’t generally go to drink that one voluntarily!

same with the celery juice - I was also thinking of getting him started on that again. curious to hear your thoughts and perhaps a guide to how much of each! and how soon should I start on the smoothie and celery juice?

In terms of supplements, are the following from Vimergy safe for cats? (and dogs?) :
- Magnesium glycinate
- Lemon balm
- Vitamin D3
- B-complex
- 5-MTHF
- Chaga mushroom
- Cat’s claw
- Ashwagandha
- Curcumin
- EPA and DHA
- Glutathione
- Licorice Root
- Melatonin
- Milk thistle
- Nettle
- Spirulina

Of course, not looking to give him ALL of these straight away, but also not sure about how much of these would be helpful. Would any of these be helpful to start him on when he arrives home today?

Before this recent turn of events, I was occasionally supplementing him with a few drops of B12 on my finger and Zinc, sometimes a few drops olive leaf in his food, barley grass juice powder in his food, micro C and sometimes lysine sprinkled in food, sometimes a tiny drop of goldenseal, sometimes a little bit of MSM. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

The vet has also suggested giving him denosyl… they gave him 1x initially. I’m not feeling too sure about whether I want to continue with medications, given the situation with his liver already being compromised, and am wanting a more natural approach. What are your thoughts?

Thankyou again for all your support.
 
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giving the heavy metal detox smoothie with a syringe? he doesn’t generally go to drink that one voluntarily!
Thanks for asking! No, I wouldn't recommend putting anything in his mouth that he's not super happy about. We don't want to turn him off to eating or happiness in any way.

Same thing goes for any of supplements. However, lapping the B12 off your finger is perfect!

How about mixing up a liquid of spirulina, glutathione, licorice root, some canned food and broth to see if he likes that?
The vet has also suggested giving him denosyl… What are your thoughts?
Denosyl is like a supportive supplement so is fine to use.

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Thanks for asking! No, I wouldn't recommend putting anything in his mouth that he's not super happy about. We don't want to turn him off to eating or happiness in any way.

Same thing goes for any of supplements. However, lapping the B12 off your finger is perfect!

How about mixing up a liquid of spirulina, glutathione, licorice root, some canned food and broth to see if he likes that?

Denosyl is like a supportive supplement so is fine to use.

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Hi @Dr. Jeff !! Just an update. Tiger is doing so much better at home. Catheter is out. Keeping an eye on him over this weekend and moving forward. He’s still a little wobbly but he's walking a lot and wants to move! He’s been eager to eat. Have been feeding raw grass-fed beef and sardines and he's loving it! I have also added in a sprinkle of (all Vimergy) glutathione, spirulina, barley grass juice powder, micro C to his food, and he licks up 1-2 drops of zinc and B12 (Separately) off my finger. I haven’t seen him use the litter tray for number twos yet though… any thoughts on this? When I pat him and massage lower down his back, he also seems to start meowing/crying, gets agitated and his tail begins to wag. Not sure if the two are related.

Question about the food. Is it okay to feed raw sardines for a whole day? The butcher is closed until tomorrow for raw meat and I only have sardines on hand!! Would love to hear your thoughts or any advice. I could pop into the store but the meat quality isn’t the same.
 
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Hi @Dr. Jeff !! Just an update. Tiger is doing so much better at home. Catheter is out. Keeping an eye on him over this weekend and moving forward. He’s still a little wobbly. He’s eating raw beef and sardines and loving it! I haven’t seen him use the litter tray for number twos yet though…

Question about the food. Is it okay to feed raw sardines for a whole day? The butcher is closed until tomorrow for raw meat and I only have sardines on hand!! Would love to hear your thoughts or any advice. I could pop into the store but the meat quality isn’t the same.
Hi Santata, I’m so sorry you & Tiger have had such a rough time. I have had incredible results for our Cat with Acupuncture and Chinese Herbs & Homeopathic Remedies!

I feel all of which could really help Tiger if they are the right ones which a Good Holistic Vet can determine.

Dr Christinas Journal has a list of websites to find good Vets. Where do you live?
detox seems important. Lots of good Homeopathic Remedies for that too.

Dr Judy Morgan recommends wild Cod white fish and pumpkin for a week after illness. Easy to digest proteins may be easier for a while.

Beef is stagnating so if there is stagnation isn’t the best choice. Otherwise its fine.

Our Cat eats Rabbit or Turkey when he doesn’t feel well. Its good for a short time, but too lean for long term.

Susan Thixton has a list of good foods. I’m a firm believer in Raw feeding especially if there is an imbalance with the Pancreas. I learned from our Vet of Chinese Medicine to support the Spleen when there is Pancreatitis which worked so well combined with Acupuncture on our Cat. He had been vomiting Bile. When he is ill or nauseous he often will eat cooked or canned for a dew days and its helpful.
If you find an Acuouncturist for Tiger have then show you the Liver points and you can do daily acupressure with very gentle pressure!
Sending Tiger love and healing. Hope this helps. Keep us posted.
 
Hi Santata, I’m so sorry you & Tiger have had such a rough time. I have had incredible results for our Cat with Acupuncture and Chinese Herbs & Homeopathic Remedies!

I feel all of which could really help Tiger if they are the right ones which a Good Holistic Vet can determine.

Dr Christinas Journal has a list of websites to find good Vets. Where do you live?
detox seems important. Lots of good Homeopathic Remedies for that too.

Dr Judy Morgan recommends wild Cod white fish and pumpkin for a week after illness. Easy to digest proteins may be easier for a while.

Beef is stagnating so if there is stagnation isn’t the best choice. Otherwise its fine.

Our Cat eats Rabbit or Turkey when he doesn’t feel well. Its good for a short time, but too lean for long term.

Susan Thixton has a list of good foods. I’m a firm believer in Raw feeding especially if there is an imbalance with the Pancreas. I learned from our Vet of Chinese Medicine to support the Spleen when there is Pancreatitis which worked so well combined with Acupuncture on our Cat. He had been vomiting Bile. When he is ill or nauseous he often will eat cooked or canned for a dew days and its helpful.
If you find an Acuouncturist for Tiger have then show you the Liver points and you can do daily acupressure with very gentle pressure!
Sending Tiger love and healing. Hope this helps. Keep us posted.
Thankyou for this! @LaurenHW I do have a holistic vet that I found here (in Perth, Western Australia). Have just edited my reply above to give more info on herbal tinctures etc. that I'm using. What homeopathic remedies would you recommend?

The holistic vet mentioned tinned sardines, chicken necks, frames, raw meat etc. to feed. I haven't looked into turkey or rabbit yet, will definitely try to look out for that. Tiger wasn't too fond of the chicken breast I tried to feed, he's only eaten sardines and grass-fed beef so far.

What cooked or canned food are you referring to?

Is the pumpkin best steamed and mashed? Doubt he would eat that but perhaps if I mixed it with sardines!
 
Tiger is doing so much better at home.
That's fantastic!
Is it okay to feed raw sardines for a whole day?
Yes.

I haven’t seen him use the litter tray for number twos yet though… any thoughts on this?
His body is currently absorbing (and not eliminating) most of the food. It's making up the deficit from his not eating. The poop will come...

Thanks for keeping us updated Santara.
 
Thankyou for this! @LaurenHW I do have a holistic vet that I found here (in Perth, Western Australia). Have just edited my reply above to give more info on herbal tinctures etc. that I'm using. What homeopathic remedies would you recommend?

The holistic vet mentioned tinned sardines, chicken necks, frames, raw meat etc. to feed. I haven't looked into turkey or rabbit yet, will definitely try to look out for that. Tiger wasn't too fond of the chicken breast I tried to feed, he's only eaten sardines and grass-fed beef so far.

What cooked or canned food are you referring to?

Is the pumpkin best steamed and mashed? Doubt he would eat that but perhaps if I mixed it with sardines!

I would suggest you look at Dr Billinghurst’s site and see what & who/Vets he recommends. I think he’s in NZ. This is the Father of Raw Feeding.

And Vet Dr Edward Bassingthwaighte
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This is a great very inexpensive training and he may also have some good recommendations and resources. I think he is still practicing & has a list of Body Balance Practitioners. You can email him. He is in Australia.

I know its Summer there and Rabbit is cooling and easy to digest. Its good to use when animals are recovering. Its too lean to feed all the time.

If your Tiger likes Beef then great, just ask a Holistic Vet you choose to check for any stagnation.

I mix in either Organic Canned Pumpkin(look for BPA Free lining) or when I can get Fresh I steam it, peel and seed it and puree the flesh. For Cats I feed 1/4-1/2 teaspoon per day. I mix it into the ground meat. I make small ice cubes portion size and freeze them in a glass container or jar. Then I just add one to his frozen ground meatball and defrost in the refrigerator overnight.

One mistake I made was not heating Romeo’s food. I now add hot/not boiling water and let it sit a minute to warm up before serving it. I am just not comfortable with bacterial growth at room temperature so i do not leave it out!

Its hard to find any canned food that doesn’t have something unhealthy! I loved Ziwi Peak until I learned they were sold to a Chinese company.

Susan Thixton has dedicated herself to examining Dog/Cat Foods and sells an Annual List for $10US. I don’t have it. I only feed canned in a pinch when Romeo refuses all Raw.

I’ve been considering making my own for him and pureeing it. Many Holistic Vets have good recipes. I learned tons on PetSummits.com/rawfeeding
See what you can find on Holistic Actions too!

Homemade Broth with just pasture raised bones and filtered water can be added to food or given when he won’t eat. Very healing.

Do you know how to test for dehydration? You pinch and pull the neck scruff up and if it stays or goes doen very slowly and looks like a Tent, called Tenting, he is dehydrated!

If this happens I give water very slowly with a syringe(no needle). My Cat will lick it. If its severe, Tent stays up, IV or Subcutaneous fluids may be indicated and helpful. Cats cannot go too long being dehydrated or not eating.

Good luck, you’re doing great! Remember to manage your stress and don’t underestimate the power of Love to heal! ?

Lmk how it goes and if you contact the 2 amazing Vets I mentioned. Body Balance is healing touch you can do. I also meditate with Romeo…he come on his own nightly! Take good care.
 
Is the Arsenicum helping? It took a few days of 2 doses a day for Romeo’s elimination to increase.
 
That's fantastic!

Yes.


His body is currently absorbing (and not eliminating) most of the food. It's making up the deficit from his not eating. The poop will come...

Thanks for keeping us updated Santara.
Thankyou! I found a poop in the litter tray today woohoo haha. It was really firm and dry though. Will give it some time to adjust, thanks to that.

What are your thoughts on good additions to a cats diet to keep it balanced @Dr. Jeff ? is raw grass-fed beef and sardines okay for now? Was also looking into getting beef heart and kidneys to add in. Do you think turkey, chicken or rabbit is needed? TIA!!
 
is raw grass-fed beef and sardines okay for now?
Yes!
What are your thoughts on good additions to a cats diet to keep it balanced
I don't know what's available in Australia. If you share some possibilities, I will gladly look into them.

Was also looking into getting beef heart and kidneys to add in.
Excellent!
Do you think turkey, chicken or rabbit is needed?
Not needed, but potentially (if she likes them and they agree with her) good additions to the diet variety.
 
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